Shareware does it all the time
What I find interesting is that people get all up in arms when Apple does exactly what shareware (and other reputable software) installers have been doing since the beginning of guided installations....
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just the google tool bar bundled with everything and autoamtically check for install, all sleezy
View ArticleIt's up to you.
This kind of thing is nothing new, Microsoft (and many other companies) have been doing much worse for years. Passing Copy Protection, and stricter DRM off as "Windows Genuine Advantage" is one...
View ArticleApple surprised me with it
I thought the offer to download Safari was spyware/viralware at first, as I couldn't figure out why Apple/Itunes would offer me what I thought was a Macintosh-only product, and I ended up doing a virus...
View ArticleNot Apple's first sleazy move
Don't forget they bundled that huge install of iTunes and its crapola with Quicktime... which is rediculously large as it is. First you were stuck with the download, then they changed it where you only...
View ArticleSleazy?
Just thirty seconds ago (before reading this post) I was prompted by Apple update software. It clearly stated what it was going to install, Safari being one of them. I unchecked the Safari option and...
View ArticleSafari?
Tell me superfli, does the Apple update software clearly specify what Safari is? Just wondering because I'd have had trouble remembering what Safari was by name and I've been on the 'Net for 12 years...
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I didn't install it, but I'm a tech. The reason I was leery of the offer at all was because I knew that Safari didn't belong on a PC. (At that moment I didn't know that Safari had been expanded to...
View ArticleRe: Safari?
If you've been on the 'net for 12 years and never heard of Safari, perhaps you need to extend your horizons. I knew about Safari even before buying my iBook (as well as text-based browsers like Links,...
View ArticleSleazy.
"What I find interesting is that people get all up in arms when Apple does exactly what shareware (and other reputable software) installers have been doing since the beginning of guided installations."...
View ArticleAnnoying...
All of my family's pc's have Quicktime installed on them for those pesky .mov files that nothing else will play. Both laptops have bothered me as soon as our network connected a couple times now to...
View Articlehow much extra
How much extra is the Safari install? If I understand correctly, iTunes is based on Safari. They may just be seeing this as an extra bang-for-the-buck moment.
View ArticleRe: Shareware does it all the time
The biggest problem here is that it is being promoted as an update. It is the "Apple software Updater" that is suggesting that you download and install this new piece of software. My take on it is that...
View Articlecareful
People just need to be careful and aware of what they are doing. make decisions instead of just clicking on whatever.
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what it all comes down to is the user and how reckclass one is, when u go to the store and buy a container of milk u check the sate. when you install something, read wat ur doing. plain and simple. but...
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I agree with you. If a software UPDATER pops up it should be for updates on software that is installed, not to be pushing new software. Honestly though I got that same updater popup for quicktime and...
View ArticleIs it that hard...
... to uncheck the box? That's all I did. I didn't feel violated or anything. They gave me an option to try it. and I refused. No trust in Apple was lost. Until Steve Jobs sends the iGoons to force me...
View ArticleRe: Re: Safari?
That's funny, earlier this day I was getting attacked for being too pro-Apple. You can't please everybody, I guess.
View ArticlePay attention
The problem here, which Mozilla's CEO said, is that it's an opt-out, not an opt-in. He questioned their behavior. Plain and simple. I, for one, hate when a program assumes I want something, even though...
View ArticleSame thing with iTunes/QT
Once upon a time, I unfortunatly needed QuickTime. At that time I found that you could not install JUST Quicktime, you had to install iTunes as well. Then I moved to Quicktime Alternative, and then to...
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apple should just die. or at least thier software. say no to QuickTime and Itunes adn safari, thier are many opensource alternatives for all three that work with your damn ipod too. thier hardware it...
View ArticleRe: Safari?
And tell me will are you just an idiot that clicks yes to an install when you don't know what it is?
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I saw the update but didn't install it. It's not hard to click cancel. It's not a big deal; there are more evil tactics out there.
View ArticleSneak????
Its right there in black and white. If you don't want to install it, you don't have to. I think after 20+ years of the "internet" we would learn by now how to READ. I remember when I thought I could...
View ArticleWhy is everyone so pissed?
At least Apple SHOWS users what's being installed (at least, with this "upgrade")!! This is a huge change over its Quicktime "upgrade", which installed iTunes without my consent! Of course, after Apple...
View ArticleHAHAHAHA!!
Let people see Apple is no different than anyone else. Try to vilify Microsoft and put Apple on a perch, if you like, when the truth is Apple is a software company trying to distribute their wares like...
View ArticleRe: Is it that hard...
What you (and I don't mean you specifically, I mean *all* of you) don't realize is that unchecking the box now is a temporary fix... the next time Quicktime, iTunes, or now it seems Safari is updated,...
View ArticleFrickin Apple's
That pissed me off when it first came up on my screen. The difference between this and things like "Adobe Album Starter" is that it doesn't try to bundle itself as an "upgrade" to software to already...
View ArticleRe: Re: Safari?
Do you know what every single windows update douse that you install on your computer? Or do you just not install updates?
View ArticleYeah....
I just hopped up on the bandwagon and downloaded safari, but i know so many n00bs who have no idea what it is. Apple needs to realize this and inform the n00bs. Just like other people, I thought it was...
View Articleforced to download iTunes as well
I've always hated having iTunes installed with Quicktime as well. Oh sure you can download Quicktime with out iTunes, but the updates all require install of iTunes. Since I don't have a need for iTunes...
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#27 hit exactly the real problem. Having it pop up once, is annoying and inappropriate on Apple's part but clicking a check box is hardly taxing. What IS a problem, is now every time Apple Update runs,...
View ArticleI downloaded Safari but it just crashes
Since I knew what Safari was I though I might have a look. So I checked the box and installed it. The only problem is, it doesn't work. Loads, paints a window, tries to fetch a page and generates a...
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Oddly enough (serendipity?) I got the "install safari" window just moments before reading this post. In fact, I was waiting for the Add/Remove Programs window to load when I started reading this post.
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Apple has been doing this sort of thing for years with Quicktime and iTunes. Even when you opt out of downloading and installing iTunes the first time, every few weeks it offers it to you again. I...
View ArticleIt's sleazy - Sorry Mac fanboys
Sorry Mac fanboys, it's sleazy. It's not an update, so it's a misrepresentation on Apple's part regardless of the quantity of kool-aid you consume. And quite frankly, I don't care if Microsoft, Google,...
View ArticleApple acts like they own my computer
All I want are iTunes updates so I can listen to music and audiobooks. Apple already forces QuickTime onto my computer and absolutely won't let me run iTunes without it. Furthermore with every software...
View ArticleBullcrap
To use any installer in a default 'yes' mode is sleazy. Not everyone who uses a computer is going to understand what they're doing. While Safari is probably harmless, the mere method has created a lack...
View Articlewell..
although I wouldn't use a mac computer. it's Safari is MUCH quicker than Internet ex. or firefox...sorry
View ArticleSafari
I don't want Safari. I even disabled automatic updates for my iTunes. I hated Safari and won't use this product at all.
View ArticleWow
Ok. I can see how apple fans are defending Apple INc. They thinks it's not that big of a deal if it's checked off. But it is wrong to do that because I know, that if my mother saw that update box, she...
View ArticleStay focused here?
After reading these comments, go back and read the actual atricle. This is not about Quicktime, or Internet Explorer, or Vista, or OS X, or anything other than iTunes defaulting to install Safari onto...
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I don't want Safari, and I never will, why does this annoying adware from Apple keep popping up. One more time! Just one more time, and I delete itunes! Really apple, if I say cancel the first time I...
View ArticleSham, Scam, by any other name
It would be one thing to offer once then respect the user's wishes. Instead, these rude sons of guns won't give up. Stupid pop upined a several hour simulation on my gaming machine, to give methe...
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